A guy at www.hardforum.com posted this link. This is very sad if the price is what Nvidia will be charging. 499 for the GTX 470 and 679 for the GTX 480. The GTX is a little slower than the 5870, but the 5870 is retailed at a $120 less if the price on the 470 is correct. I don't get it.

forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=117000

and how fast is the 5870 in PhysX?

Browning wrote:
and how fast is the 5870 in PhysX?

Physx implementation is a joke right now. Ati is working on a open standard physics while nvidia is still promoting closed standards. I bought a gt 240 for physx with my 5850 and when I had it all up and running... Out of the 55 games installed on my pc, only one supports it and I don't even play it. I bought it as I wanted to see why people felt it was important. It turned out as a joke since 98% of the games out on pc utilize the cpu for physics such as havok in BFBC2.

i'm loving my ati 5850, especially for it's price point.